Episode Transcript
Good morning and welcome back to another episode of movie deputy podcasts, where we bring you the latest and greatest and all the classics, too, of movies that have been deeply interrogated for their plot and content. And honestly, we're going to be talking about a lot more than that this morning.
I saw in early screening of Cabrini last night and the movie, let's just say there's going to be two experiences to talk about with this one. There's going to be the experience of the movie itself, and then there's going to be what happened afterward. And I try to be upfront and honest and blunt with all of my listeners. And I'm going to start off by saying that I am probably going to ruffle some feathers with this one just because, just my take on it and because of what happened afterward and my take on what happened then. But I have tried to be very open and honest with you guys at all times that I am not a religious person.
I have my belief system. I am comfortable with my belief system. And you know what? If you are comfortable with your belief system and you are not out there to try to harm others, if it brings you peace of mind, have at it. If you believe a is right, if you believe b is right, if you believe c is right, if you believe none of them are right, I don't care. It doesn't bother me either way, as long as you are not trying to harm me or somebody else in some manner. It is not my place to tell you what to believe or tell you what not to believe. And that really does upset some people and it gets right up in their face. But if you've listened to some of my shows in the past, too, where I've talked about the God's not dead movies, and I've talked about sound of freedom and I talked about some of these other movies that really focus a lot on religion. And we're going to be talking about another one in the next couple days, too, that we're going to be bringing up of unexpected angels. That's not the one we're talking about today, though. We are talking about Cabrini. So if you have not heard of it or if you have not seen, it's another movie done by.
And, you know, if I sound a little bit more wired than I typically do, I should probably sound downright exhausted as I did not get much sleep last night. But this movie is not what you expect.
Even if you're familiar with Cabrini's story, this movie is not what you expect.
And you may be thinking, okay, why are you making it such a point to point this out to me? Well, there's a couple different reasons for that, and there's a couple different points that I want to touch on with doing this, but I think it's important to say before we even get into the story itself on this one, I am giving this one a guilty rating because of just some of the content that's in it. It's nothing that's overly offensive. It's nothing that's overly in your just. It could be a little bit hard to handle for some people. And so that is Quincy.
[00:03:15] As usual, my kitty cats are part of the thing. And thank you to one fast cat, because it's one of their few toys that brings me sanity in mornings such as this. So they love their cat wheel. I love the cat wheel. I am looking into getting a second one at the moment. We are on generation six of that, but like I said, it's one of the few toys that brings me some sanity. But back to the movie, one of the things I want to touch on in this movie, and I will say the trailers, I don't want to use the term misleading because I think that itself is misleading, but the trailers give a glimpse of the movie that, I don't know, measures up to the movie itself.
[00:04:01] Now, there were people literally applauding at the end of this movie theater. I saw this in, had seats for approximately, I think, 120 something people, and I'd say it was about 95% sold out when I went to go see this. Quincy, you do not need to get up there. No, you do not do that.
Fun of being a cat mom.
But Cabrini truly achieved what no one else would because she did what no one else would.
Now, why is that important?
That's important. Before I even kind of get into the why of all of this, there's so much going on with a story such as this.
It kind of gave the impression that she was going against the church in the previews and going kind of against some of their things to create this orphanage and this hospital and everything, which she did do. But it's not as simple as that. The cabrini that we see in all of this. Quincy, now stop it or I'm going to make you go leave the office. Now you stop it. Like I said, the fun of being a cat mom, especially first thing in the morning, they probably want their numbs, which I haven't given them yet, a little too early.
But with what Cabrini did, is she had been appealing to the Vatican for a long time to have the opportunity to build an orphanage. And she wanted to start in China. She wanted to actually go east first. But the Vatican kept telling her, no, it's like, no, you're not going to be able to do this. And finally she got tired of them just sending letters and stuff, saying, no, you can't do this.
So she went there in person, and she's like, you know, if you're going to tell me no, I want to hear it from the pope himself. So she went in front of him and he's like, no woman has ever done anything like this before. And so she's like, okay, I want to be the first. And he takes a chance on her, but under the stipulation is that she doesn't go east, she goes west. And, no, that's actually not a spoiler in this, because just simple, I mean, a simple Google thing will tell you that, so you don't need the movie to tell you that.
[00:06:23] And how this kind of happens, because she is starting going to the west before going to the east is she comes to New York and they put her in just one of the darkest, dankest areas of New York with all these other immigrants and stuff, and they don't give her any credit for doing anything. And she still manages to open up an orphanage and feed all these orphans and everything going along with that. And then she moves forward and she changes a lot of people's lives. And in doing so, she faces a lot of ridicule, and there are a lot of racial slurs, and there are a lot of slurs towards immigrants and slurs towards other things. And there is some violence involved with all of this. And, of course, it's true, a lot of that stuff was said. A lot of that stuff happened.
[00:07:14] And to be blunt, I mean, it's the line they use in the movie. Even the rats had it better than the immigrants. And that wasn't just an exaggeration. That really was kind of how it played out.
[00:07:26] So that was just kind of an interesting point to make on that.
[00:07:32] And with being given this responsibility, she's been told, do not ask for help. Like, she could only ask fellow italian immigrants for help. She couldn't go to the Americans. She couldn't go to the church. She couldn't go to the city. And don't worry, no spoilers on any of this. So she managed to figure out how to do it in kind of in an unconventional way. And in doing so, she ran into a lot of brick walls, not in the literal sense but in a very difficult sense.
[00:08:03] But with doing so, she really made a name for herself. And that did involve a lot of backlash from society, from backlash from the church. I mean, almost complete expulsion from the church at one point.
[00:08:21] And she just determined not to give up on all of this. That she did. And thank goodness that she didn't. Her life story, she actually ended up becoming the only american saint in history, except she was italian. She born and raised in Italy, and she came here and she became an.
[00:08:43] And that sounds like such a great inspirational story and such a wonderful story. And the heart of the story really was quite memorable. But the whole thing, and I'm not saying that factually, it's incorrect. It's just the way that it is presented with this culture that we have nowadays, it almost borderlines on a little bit of riding the woke wave a little bit.
[00:09:10] And, okay, I know I'm going to get some hate for this, and so be it on that. And I'm going to kind of get into more of that here in a minute.
[00:09:17] But this one just, I don't know.
[00:09:21] One of the big parts of the story is that societies, not just in America, but societies as a whole, have been built on the dead because it's like we use up people, we bury them, we build stuff on top of them. Graves are not what we traditionally nowadays know as graves, has not always been the case. I mean, look at the catacombs in Europe just kind of as reference on that. And I'm not trying to get too sidetracked on that. But the big thing that they do here is they're showing the value of immigrants. And it's just Americans have value, too. It's not all about immigrants. And yes, a lot of our families emigrated here, and it's not just as simple as the way some of these movies make it out to be. It's like if they had health checks and they had other things or they were sent back to their own countries. And when they came here, they came here. Yes, they had their own culture, but they also learned to speak English. They also learned how to be Americans. I mean, even in Cabrini's culture, when she got here, she's like, we're going to speak English. Yes, they still sang a lot of their hymns and stuff in Italian, which is beautiful. And they celebrated their italian heritage, but they also celebrated what it was like to be an american. And so that's going to be an important distinction on a story such as this.
[00:10:48] And you may be wondering, okay, I mentioned that I gave this a guilty rating, you probably won't know the score I gave it. And again, I'm going to take some heat for this score, but just because basically the wow factor of this movie you saw in the trailers, there was a lot of content to this story. And this story is like 2 hours and 40 something minutes long.
[00:11:12] It could have probably been half that and told the same story, just to be honest. It really could have been.
[00:11:19] But the score that I gave this was just a six out of ten on the deputy scale. Now, it is a good story. It really is. But there were some things that just, like I said, I'm going to get some hate because just my views towards that. And I actually got a lot of hate before I even got out of the theater tonight. And I was not physically injured, but I felt emotionally injured. Now, I'm not saying I was triggered or anything like that. It's like, but if you've listened to me at all, you know, I am not woke on stuff like that. But there was a group of people specifically, I don't know if I've made enough of a name for myself of going to the theater on opening nights of a lot of this stuff and just kind of making my name known like that. But this one person said to me, and I was like, you're the movie critic, the movie deputy, right? And I'm like, yeah.
[00:12:19] They just start tearing into me. It's like, okay, what gives you the right to review this movie? You're not religious, blah, blah, blah.
[00:12:27] And then they start to try laying their hands on me. And I'm not. The whole thing of like, oh, cry consent and all that stuff. Yeah, okay, that's a great thing. But they're all just like, pray the hate away. Pray the hate away. And in this thing, one of them even knocks the glasses off of my face.
[00:12:48] These people were not approaching me in a loving, caring way. They did not want to have a discussion. They did not want to do anything but try to embarrass me and degrade me in the name of faith. And they were telling me I'm going to be banned from the churches if I give this movie a bad review. And they're going to ban me and they're just going to make a name for all of this. Do I sound angry?
[00:13:13] Good.
[00:13:18] I spent quite a while last night just mulling on this going, okay, I don't want to come into this review with this much angst and just anger in my voice. And they were just, the authorities had to be called just enough to and I'm not in trouble. I'm not in trouble at all. But I was basically ambushed and ridiculed and chastised because the fact that they did not like the fact that I'm not religious and I'm going to be reviewing this movie.
[00:13:59] Too bad. So sad. Again. You don't like it? Turn it off. Plain and simple, the movie is what it is. The review is what it is. Angel Studios is doing what they're doing again with if people want to sponsor other people for tickets, you just go to angelstudios or angelstudios.com or whatever. Just google angelstudios.com and Cabrini and then you can figure out how to pay it forward. If you want to do that. If you want to see this movie, great. If not, that's great.
[00:14:34] A she did a lot of wonderful things in her life, but as much as the story is great that this shares, I just don't know if the way that Angel Studios came at the presentation of it was necessarily the greatest. Now, was my review tainted because of what happened after the movie? I can see how you might think that. No, because I was having a lot of these thoughts and these ideas while the movie was playing. I'm just like, but why did they do this? Or what was the point of this? Or was this really necessary? And I know I'm going really long on the review thing here, but what happened afterwards was inexcusable. No, I'm lucky my glasses actually are not broken, but I felt like Velma, the whole Scooby doo thing just, I'm on the ground literally looking for my glasses.
[00:15:27] My vision is horrible without them. But for people to surround me and just do that in the way that they did it. You want to have a discussion with me? If you want to sit down and have a conversation with me about my thoughts and my beliefs on this stuff, I'm welcome to that. It's like, you know, let's set up a time and place, let's sit down and have a discussion. But you corner me and you surround me and you basically are just inundate me with your anger and your hatred.
[00:15:59] I was so angry, I was brought to tears. They did not physically hurt me, but anger.
[00:16:07] It takes a lot to get me that angry, and it takes a lot for me to calm down when it's done. Thankfully, yes, I am all right. But I hope these people save. I mean, let me put it this way. These people are so certain that I am going to be going to hell. I personally don't believe in hell. But you know what? If I am, I know they're going to be keeping the seat warm for me.
[00:16:31] If that upsets you, so be it. But like I said, if you want to sit down and have a civil discussion with me and discuss this stuff, approach me like that, but approach me like this. And it's just the amount of vile hatred that came out of these people in the name of religion, in the name of God, in the name of all of this other stuff that they were claiming made me sick. These people are sick.
[00:17:01] If you want to defend them, so be it. I thought that's your right. That's your choice. But this is my stance on it. No, I did not let that taint my view of the movie. But it's important to bring up the fact that some people are absolutely unhinged. Now, I will say the vast majority of the people that were in this showing that I was in left quietly. Nothing came of it. This is 910 people out of over 120 people that decided to make an issue out of this because they know me and obviously they're familiar with my reviews and familiar with movie deputy. But if they don't like it, so be it. But free speech.
[00:17:42] And I'm not going to call any of them out by name or call out even like, where this even happened at. Not worth it because I don't want to give these people that kind of power. They're going to know who they are. If they listen to this, you're going to know who you are. And if this upsets you, good.
[00:18:00] I'm still burled up about it. Should I still be burled up about it? I mean, I know the whole thing with forgiveness and all that, but that's going to take a while. That's going to take a while. Like I said, physically, I'm okay. Emotionally, I'm still upset. Thankfully, my glasses are okay.
[00:18:16] I was not injured in any way. But emotionally, I'm ticked. So hopefully I will be better by tomorrow as I'm going to be talking to you about another movie that is opening up this weekend. So hang tight and I will be back then. Bye.
